"in Christ there is ...( 2 months ago by thewatchslot)
"in Christ there is niether jew nor greek bond nor free but all are one" ..only hope for europe and the whole world....ta
Its true that the ...( 2 months ago by Dillestman)
Its true that the only hope for the world was Rome, and the stupid hateful barbarians were to fuckin' dumb to realize that they would throw that part of Europe into pain, chaos, and another Africa on Earth for several centuries. But ultimately what destroyed Rome was Christianity. A mere demonstration of the power of God how 3 years of teachings would destroy 5 centuries of rising greatness.
fmoa?Idiot?control ...( 2 months ago by romandef)
fmoa?Idiot?control your e-mail.I've sent you 2 e-mails!!!!You've missed me for 5 days!!!!!ahahahaha!!!!
I admire the ...( 2 months ago by Galuadan)
I admire the barbarian tribes who destroyed the West roman empire.I felt no ill about Romans,but i read what they did to my people and i changed my mind a bit
the peopel who ...( 2 months ago by StvMrs)
the peopel who destroy the impire off rome were the spains they go to italy whit they horses and kill all the bastard spain did the same thing whit los moros the morrocans they kill all that bastards.
But thousands died ...( 2 months ago by Galuadan)
But thousands died unfair
don't smoke bad ...( 2 months ago by Cirifischio88)
don't smoke bad things!!!
the Roma imper... ...( 1 month ago by TylerMonaco)
the Roma imper... still living in our time... nothing change!!! nothing change in all world now!!!
Most barbarians who ...( 1 month ago by netwolf)
Most barbarians who came into the Western empire did so because they wanted to assimilate to the Roman way of life not to destroy it. And most came "hat in hand" (4th & 5th centruies AD) because they were getting their teeth kicked in by the Huns.
And bringed ...( 1 month ago by Galuadan)
And bringed darkness?The thing is that Greeks always suffered from everybody and thats what hurts me
It wasn't ' ...( 1 month ago by IInformYou)
It wasn't 'barbarians' that destroyed the Roman Empire. Germanic peoples upheld the Roman Empire. The Jews and Christianity wrecked the Roman Empire.
Correct. ...( 1 month ago by IInformYou)
Correct. Christianity destroyed the Classical Era, not so-called 'Barbarians'. The question is, what happened to cause the Roman and Greek peoples to accept such an enfeebling, inferior religion? I believe it was internal genetic dissolution. In other words, the Romans and Greeks were no longer the Romans and Greeks of old.
Good work, Elysium.( 1 month ago by IInformYou)
Good work, Elysium.
Do you believe that ...( 1 month ago by ElysiumFilms)
Do you believe that the modern day Greeks and Italians are the same people who marked the turn from the two ancient societies into those from the middle ages to today? That would explain why all the sculptures, paintings and accounts of the physical appearances of Greeks and Romans do not match the modern day inhabitants. Moreover, the wonders achieved by both do not match either.
Do you believe that ...( 1 month ago by ElysiumFilms)
Do you believe that the modern day Greeks and Italians are the same people who marked the turn from the two ancient societies into those from the middle ages to today? That would explain why all the sculptures, paintings and accounts of the physical appearances of Greeks and Romans do not match the modern day inhabitants. Moreover, the wonders achieved by both do not match either.
If one reads the ...( 1 month ago by IInformYou)
If one reads the accounts of the Peloponnesian War, for example, the picture drawn is one of dysgenics. Hence, the transfer of power from Athens and Sparta to northern Greece, or Macedonia. In Rome, we know that Roman citizens, in particular its ruling families, suffered from very low birthrates. Augustus attempted to change this, but did not succeed. During the war with the Cimbri and Teutones, for instance, so many Romans died that Gaius Marius was forced to recruit anyone available.
Indeed. How do you ...( 1 month ago by ElysiumFilms)
Indeed. How do you think those who originally were a small percentage of the population and came to dominate, were brought into the society? Were they brought there, or were they an existing element, or perhaps earlier settlers?
We can easily draw ...( 1 month ago by IInformYou)
We can easily draw parallels to our own times. For example, while modern Germany is still Germany and 'German', per se, is it as German as it was in 1500? Or even 1900? This is what happened to ancient Rome and Greece. Hence, the transfer of power from them to northern Europe. Northern Europeans became the determining factor, one way or another, in the fate of Europe - not Greece or Rome. It is all because of genetics.
The founders and ...( 1 month ago by IInformYou)
The founders and founding population of the United States were from Northern Europe. They were driving force behind such notions as 'freedom', 'liberty', 'rights', 'independence', etc.. ('Magna Carta', 'Declaration of Independence', etc..) This was an extension of their Germanic heritage, which was averse to one individual holding too much power. The early Romans and Athenians were the same! But as those original bloodlines diminished, so did this desire for representation and freedom.
I can picture in my ...( 1 month ago by ElysiumFilms)
I can picture in my mind the expansion of "good genes" from Europe to Asia and its slow but stead retraction to the fringes of Northern Europe. Sad.
I believe Sparta ( ...( 1 month ago by IInformYou)
I believe Sparta (Lycurgus) was a reaction by a select group of Indo-European invaders who were determined to maintain their bloodlines - unmixed. They did not consider themselves the same as the Helots. This is because Helots, who comprised upwards of 90% of the population, were largely descended from the pre-IE invaders. But back to Imperial Rome. It could have survived, even without the original Roman families, if it had successfully fended off the subterfuge of the Jews. (Christianity)
Would you consider ...( 1 month ago by ElysiumFilms)
Would you consider the transition from Republic to Empire in Rome as a sign of genetic degradation? I have generally seen it quite differently considering the man who took power were quite often competent.
It was a step down ...( 1 month ago by IInformYou)
It was a step down towards and to genetic dissolution. Rome became, gradually, all-inclusive - and, in the process, lost itself. I do believe that had Imperial Rome dealt with the Germanic tribes differently; been fair and forthright with them, it could've become a truly European Empire. No matter where you look in the German-Roman relations, the Romans were the devious party. By the time of Nero or thereabouts, a policy of inclusiveness and cultural expansion northward would've saved Rome.
Very true. I never ...( 1 month ago by ElysiumFilms)
Very true. I never could understand the importance of the Easter Mediterranean.
were the spains they go to italy whit they horses and kill all the bastard
spain did the same thing whit los moros
the morrocans they kill all that bastards.
The Jews and Christianity wrecked the Roman Empire.
The question is, what happened to cause the Roman and Greek peoples to accept such an enfeebling, inferior religion?
I believe it was internal genetic dissolution. In other words, the Romans and Greeks were no longer the Romans and Greeks of old.
That would explain why all the sculptures, paintings and accounts of the physical appearances of Greeks and Romans do not match the modern day inhabitants. Moreover, the wonders achieved by both do not match either.
That would explain why all the sculptures, paintings and accounts of the physical appearances of Greeks and Romans do not match the modern day inhabitants. Moreover, the wonders achieved by both do not match either.
In Rome, we know that Roman citizens, in particular its ruling families, suffered from very low birthrates. Augustus attempted to change this, but did not succeed. During the war with the Cimbri and Teutones, for instance, so many Romans died that Gaius Marius was forced to recruit anyone available.
This is what happened to ancient Rome and Greece. Hence, the transfer of power from them to northern Europe. Northern Europeans became the determining factor, one way or another, in the fate of Europe - not Greece or Rome. It is all because of genetics.
The early Romans and Athenians were the same! But as those original bloodlines diminished, so did this desire for representation and freedom.
Sad.
But back to Imperial Rome. It could have survived, even without the original Roman families, if it had successfully fended off the subterfuge of the Jews. (Christianity)
I do believe that had Imperial Rome dealt with the Germanic tribes differently; been fair and forthright with them, it could've become a truly European Empire. No matter where you look in the German-Roman relations, the Romans were the devious party.
By the time of Nero or thereabouts, a policy of inclusiveness and cultural expansion northward would've saved Rome.