Al Gore Debates Global Warming



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Al Gore debates expert climatologists (at last) on whether carbon dioxide causes global warming.


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Array ( 1 day ago by tylerrrr9483)
grastog
LOOK AT THE HADLEY DATA YOU HALF A MEATBALL IVE PUT IT ON HERE BEFORE AND HONESTLY YOU HAVE NOTHING LOGICAL OR REFUTABLE TO SAY ABOUT IT.
Salamandra - I ... ( 1 day ago by grastog1313)
Salamandra - I think you have it backwards. The Earth will survive regardless of what we do, but human civilization is endangered by unabated anthropogenic warming. That's not to say humans will become extinct (although prehistoric climate shifts have been accompanied by massive species extinctions), but rather that the welfare of millions will be impaired. Some of the consequences - floods, droughts, crop failures, and economic losses - are already apparent in Asia and elsewhere.
Salamandra09 So in ... ( 1 day ago by solargw)
Salamandra09 So in Brazil you are
"Get real, we are fucking the world up, that's obvious.
But I've never seen a cancer to cure its host"
But in the USA we are cleaner than ever
grastog1313 So ... ( 1 day ago by solargw)
grastog1313 So where in Asia is your
"floods, droughts, crop failures, and economic losses"
That is anything that has not been seen before?
The impact of CO2- ... ( 1 day ago by grastog1313)
The impact of CO2-driven warming on crop failures, via droughts, floods, insect infestation, etc., does not reflect new phenomena, but rather an increase in hazards that occur naturally at lower intensities. For one example in Asia, Google "Climate Change Impacts, Vulnerability, and Adaptation in Asia". The problem is that agricultural losses to date have been minor compared to what might be expected if CO2 emissions are not curtailed. They do, however, indicate the urgency of the need to act.
Array ( 1 day ago by solargw)
grastog1313 said
" For one example in Asia, Google "Climate Change Impacts, Vulnerability, and Adaptation in Asia". The problem is that agricultural losses to date have been minor compared to what might be expected if CO2 emissions are not curtailed. They do, however, indicate the urgency of the need to act"
So as you say above, nothing has happened yet, and your doom is only in the "might be" and "indicate" future that only is in cp models
Salamandra, I am ... ( 1 day ago by kfw38C)
Salamandra, I am not sure most cancers are aware of what they are doing. We do have that capacity.
In this case it is not to cure the host, but to make sure the host can still accommodate us.
The point I was ... ( 23 hours ago by grastog1313)
The point I was making earlier, solargw, was that anthropogenic warming is already seriously damaging crop yields in Asia, Africa, and elsewhere (Google ", Google "Climate Change Impacts, Vulnerability, and Adaptation in Asia"). My larger point was that failure to curtail CO2 emissions would add greatly to the existing damage, with more serious consequences than currently experienced. The exact damage depends on the extent to which we can control CO2, and this is the focus of real world debate.
Array ( 23 hours ago by solargw)
grastog1313
No grastog1313 my point is you and other AGWers take normal weather that falls within the normal, that goes into making an average (remember 50% is above average and 50% is below average) so it's very easy for you to point to anything that is above or below average and say "proof of AGW" but you should also look at the historical record and see if it's anything that has NEVER happened before. I have, anything you point to as proof has happened before in recorded history.
Array ( 23 hours ago by solargw)
grastog1313
Also I fly for a living and have flown the world countless times, from up there you can really get a handle on how small man is and how little of the world man is using. All people of the world could live in the state of Texas and still have room for there living space.
Array ( 21 hours ago by ReduceGHGs)
Google...
The Consensus on Global Warming:
From Science to Industry & Religion
Review what our most reliable sources have to say about climate change at the above link.
There's no reasonable debate in the scientific community because not ONE credible scientific institution says humans are NOT contributing to the earth's warmig. ALL are in basic agreement. But, corporate interests continue to resist.
Case Closed. Now let's do what we can to curb our emissions.
WeCanSolveIt(dot)org
Solargw - Humans, ... ( 21 hours ago by grastog1313)
Solargw - Humans, for all their "smallness" have poured half a trillion tons of CO2 into the atmosphere since pre-Industrial times. The consequent warming and its effects - sea level rise, floods, droughts, crop failures, and so on - are not novel hazards, but a magnification of hazards that already occur naturally. You refer to "averages", but these are what are changing - average temperature, sea level, drought duration, etc. - and these are what threaten to increase further if CO2 rises more.
solargw asks very ... ( 21 hours ago by gufpott)
solargw asks very good questions: "how can ice core analysis fully correct for migration? How would we know?"
It is impossibly unlikely that the bubbles would have been through a "clean" linear translation in the ice.
There has been mixing, like a low pass filter. The CO2 peaks and troughs are lost.
In mathematical terms it is a "convolution" with unspecified (and very possibly variable) characteristics.
To accurately reverse this would be equivalent to unscrambling an egg.
Array ( 21 hours ago by gufpott)
Reduce GHG's
Google...
ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT VOLUME 18 No. 7+8 2007 BIAS AND CONCEALMENT IN THE IPCC PROCESS: THE "HOCKEY-STICK" AFFAIR AND ITS IMPLICATIONS. by. David Holland
Holland's paper will show you how "credible" must start with standards, procedures and full disclosure.
With that, we might have some basis for assessing the substance of claims being banded around in public.
ReduceGHGs is ... ( 19 hours ago by grastog1313)
ReduceGHGs is correct - basic principles of anthropogenic warming (AGW) are universally accepted in the science literature, even if not on YouTube. Literature disagreements relate to details (clouds or hurricanes, although not ice core data, which are well supported). A main point of arguers seems to be "scientists aren't perfect". That's true, but AGW principles are conclusive not because of individual perfection, but because they are supported by a massive body of data from multiple sources.
Why not bring up ... ( 18 hours ago by wilbert1755)
Why not bring up that Literature you and recluse keep talking about? Ice core data shows no correlation between rising CO2 as a cause for rising temperature.. Only AL Gore sees that connection in his science fiction crockumentary .
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. --Albert Einstein
a Hockey Stick 2 ... ( 16 hours ago by zzchomp)
a Hockey Stick 2 fault found already :
"...the load-bearing proxies are very problematic and, as previously with the Graybill strip bark chronologies (which remain in use), known defects are ignored using contrived excuses."
ReduceGHGs Case not ... ( 16 hours ago by solargw)
ReduceGHGs Case not closed. Your almighty " credible scientific institution" make statements that benefits there members, you must live a very sheltered life not to understand that. Bottom line money and power.
grastog1313 the ... ( 16 hours ago by solargw)
grastog1313 the atmosphere weight's 5,000 TRILLION tones
solargw - I haven't ... ( 15 hours ago by grastog1313)
solargw - I haven't weighed the atmosphere recently, but 5000 trillion tons sounds about right, and is consistent with the CO2/temperature data showing CO2 to be the predominant warming influence since the 1970s, and a partial factor, along with solar increases, early in the 20th century. We discussed this earlier in the thread, for interested readers to review. They might also wish to Google "Greenhouse Effect" for more details on the physics underlying CO2-driven warming.
"universally ... ( 9 hours ago by gufpott)
"universally accepted in the science literature"
Lapsing into that trance-like chant.
You are not a climatologist and therefore not qualified to make claims about what the science in general has to say about the climate.
German stydies ( ... ( 9 hours ago by tranmere789)
German stydies (G.Gerlich R.Tshäusher) have destroyed totally the idea of Co2 causing any change of temperature. Both experts have strongly critisized even that theory of 33 celsius colder air if there is no Co2.
Gore is just following old false theory of Arrhenius built in 19 th century.
Array ( 9 hours ago by gufpott)
solargw
Don't expect much sense from ReduceGHGs.
She is ideologically driven and assumes her motives are superior to other peoples'. She also rates herself as more intelligent.
She declined respond to the issues raised in Holland's paper by refusing to discuss the detail of "the science". In fact, Holland's paper is about standards and procedures.
RGHGs is mainly concerned with trying to discredit people she disagrees with.
kfw38C is correct. ... ( 1 hour ago by grastog1313)
kfw38C is correct. The myth of controversy is mainly an Internet creation. In all science literature that's peer-reviewed, anthropogenic warming is universally recognized without exception. That's not to say every detail is settled - cloud feeback and hurricane intensity are still controversial, but the general principles are not. A problem is that those interested can't confirm this without literature access, and so one suggestion to them is to try to gain access through a University library.



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