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Okay. Why is it ... ( 4 months ago by HailZeon57)
Okay. Why is it wrong to cause human suffering? In naturalistic, evolutionary terms, what is a human that it is wrong to make one suffer?
Of course it is. If ... ( 4 months ago by madiam4u)
Of course it is. If everyone started killing and raping then human society would collapse and our race would tend to extinction. This probably happened to millions of other species in the past and they became extinct. The ones who survived did NOT kill their own species, at least to some degree. Since humans kill their species one of the least, we could survive, evolve, interact, and create a society based on those principles. 'Morality' and 'conscience'are therefore also products of evolution.
All religions are ... ( 4 months ago by madiam4u)
All religions are equally stupid. They're all a pack of lies, including Christianity. If you think christianity is right, then WHY is the world a better place today than it was in the dark ages?
PS- If you don't believe in evolution, do you really believe the world was made in seven days, and god appeared as a flaming bush and all that?
"...evolutionary ... ( 4 months ago by cayetanoluis)
"...evolutionary terms". That's the wrong question. Like I said, our morality COMES FROM our evolution, but evolution isn't in and of itself a moral principle. It's a process. It can explain how we attained our morality, but it can't tell us WHAT is wrong and right, and nor does it have to. There's a huge difference. By the way, saying that "Causing suffering is wrong because God says it is" doesn't actually add any new understanding to ethics. You're just stating the problem differently.
To be fair, I think ... ( 4 months ago by cayetanoluis)
To be fair, I think you're thinking in group selection terms: that evolution happens "for the good of the species". While I think there probably is still something to be said for group selection, we don't really need to use it to account for altruism. Altruism can have evolved through within-group selection. As Dawkins says, selfishness at the gene level can manifest itself as altruism at the organismal level.
Thou shall not call ... ( 3 months ago by clerlic)
Thou shall not call the Flying Spaghetti Monster a lie :D
"all religions are ... ( 3 months ago by erfreaka25)
"all religions are stupid"
Im not religious by any means. besides, I know how to read things in poetry instead of prose. not to dog you madiam by any means, I suggest you understand the mythologies of EVERY religion before you make your conclusion. besides, maybe religion was once meant for an artistic expression about ourselves. myths can prove useful to inspire. we still do it now with our new movies of new myths. agian though, look at it as poetry, instead of prose and you might find meaning
Wow, you're not ... ( 3 months ago by Serai3)
Wow, you're not paying attention to Carl at all, are you? It's a great blow to humanity that he died so soon. Perhaps if he were still around, this ugly divisiveness between religion and science would not be so evident. He understood the religious impulse and had compassion for it, even if he did not share the views of religious people. More should learn from his wisdom.
The Greeks said, ... ( 3 months ago by debnadaviebna)
The Greeks said, when facts/numbers speak, the gods sit silent. I believe the same should be true to when Carl Sagan speaks.
Carl Sagan for ... ( 3 months ago by jack19790)
Carl Sagan for president of the Universe.
If we could only ... ( 2 months ago by trwwer)
If we could only bring him back ;_;
Carl Sagan = Legend! ( 2 months ago by stoneddan)
Carl Sagan = Legend!
Actually, he was an ... ( 1 month ago by tritonsky)
Actually, he was an agnostic.
evidence? ( 1 month ago by ldl21)
evidence?
Carl Sagan a great ... ( 1 month ago by dmana3172)
Carl Sagan a great legend and a hero of mine. I will never forget him. Sadly, we missed him. I wished to have him back.
im glad the son of ... ( 1 month ago by RadicalJeb)
im glad the son of a bitch is dead!
Most of his ... ( 1 month ago by whovian1971)
Most of his writings.
evidence? ( 1 month ago by ldl21)
evidence?
Most of his ... ( 1 month ago by whovian1971)
Most of his writings.
You can't seriously ... ( 4 weeks ago by kablamo9999)
You can't seriously mean that.
I'll second that. A ... ( 3 weeks ago by 3nambpam3)
I'll second that. A great hero of mine too. Such a great loss. Some people are born with the capacity to step back and see the bigger picture and he was one of those always could. We need more like him. Respect.
R.I.P Carl
"Why not skip a ... ( 2 weeks ago by lithiumdeuteride)
"Why not skip a step and say the universe always existed?"
- Carl Sagan, on the potential existence of god(s).
He was a humanist ... ( 2 weeks ago by Sixu83)
He was a humanist too, which means he wasn't religious. ;)
a true poet. ( 3 days ago by unicyclebabyguy)
a true poet.



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