MSNBC Debates Moon Landing Hoax (2002)

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MSNBC Debates Moon Landing Hoax (2002)

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Conspiracy theorist Bart Sibrel and astronomer Phil Plait debate whether the moon landing were faked on MSNBC's "The Abrams Report." This was broadcast in November 2002.
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"After over a ... ( 2 days ago by SpreadingtheMuse)

"After over a decade of searching with the high powered telescopes..."
Is a single telescope you use supposed to be able to resolve 10 meters at 250,000 miles? Or did you just use a pair of walmart binoculars and pretend to be clever?
The best evidence we have that we went has never been refuted. After 40 years, conspiracy dorks have produced not a single geologist to refute the moonrocks, nor a single witness to break Armstrongs alibi.
You cant even agree on where the set was. :/

Several motives ... ( 2 days ago by tmvinget123)

Several motives have been suggested for the U.S. government to fake the moon landings - some of the recurrent elements are:
1.distraction - The U.S. government benefited from a popular distraction to take attention away from the Vietnam war. Lunar activities did abruptly stop, with planned missions cancelled, around the same time that the US ceased its involvement in the Vietnam War.

2.Cold War Prestige ... ( 2 days ago by tmvinget123)

2.Cold War Prestige - The U.S. government considered it vital that the U.S. win the space race with the USSR. Going to the Moon, if it was possible, would have been risky and expensive. It would have been much easier to fake the landing, thereby ensuring success

This actually made ... ( 2 days ago by NitrogenX2030)

This actually made me laugh out loud.

I'm studying ... ( 2 days ago by NitrogenX2030)

I'm studying psychology and was wondering to what extent a person would go in order to correct me. The one thing I find in common mostly dealing with people and the moon landings is the fact that their information is conflicting. I created false evidence in words only, but I lined it with an impossible time line. You can either believe I started searching when I was a little kid or you could have known right off that it was false. Thank you for being a part of this experiment. It took two days.

I am not discussing ... ( 2 days ago by heituzi)

I am not discussing Echard110's channel, but rather pointing out the irrefutable fact that Echard110 is a ghost account and that he promotes the Apollo hoax. No responsible netizen should engage ghost accounts or agents in serious debate.

"I am not ... ( 2 days ago by Echard110)

"I am not discussing Echard110s channel"
So why was your first post here criticizing the appearance of my channel?
"but rather pointing out the irrefutable fact that Echard110 is a ghost account"
You have no such fact. Stop making things up to suit your fantasy world. You don't think my channel is pretty enough so I'm a ghost account.
"he promotes the Apollo hoax"
I don't promote the hoax but promote the moon landings as they happened. ;)
Your reluctance to discuss Apollo is telling.

"ut I lined it with ... ( 1 day ago by SpreadingtheMuse)

"ut I lined it with an impossible time line"
If the evidence was obviously false, why would anyone need to bother (dis)proving the timeline? One error was enough to discredit it, and further investigation was not necessary. Putting in two variables when you only were looking for one response? You goofed up. ;)

"It would have been ... ( 1 day ago by SpreadingtheMuse)

"It would have been much easier to fake the landing, thereby ensuring success"
Who gets to judge "easier?" Someone totally ignorant of both engineering and fakery?
Consider you also have to prove how "easy" it would be to fool the russians, who had more space experience than us up until the landing.
Here the conspiracy cant make up its mind. Either we "faked it" to beat the Russians, or the Russians were bought off not to tell, which contradicts "VITAL TO WIN!"
You dont know anything.

"Lunar activities ... ( 1 day ago by SpreadingtheMuse)

"Lunar activities did abruptly stop, with planned missions cancelled,"
That's only if the stated official reasons dont make any sense.
To which, you'd have to address each reason and refute them one by one.
Assuming that is, you even know what they are. Do you? They're good reasons...

"I'm studying ... ( 1 day ago by SpreadingtheMuse)

"I'm studying psychology and was wondering to what extent a person would go in order to correct me."
For my part, I immediately recognized that you were fabricating your knowledge of telescopes, and pointed it out. So did Echard. I'm not sure what you thought you were trying to prove...

its not a hoax, if ... ( 1 day ago by ArccaToothus)

its not a hoax, if you check out the creaters of the conspiroters they are absolute idiots who understand nothing, and refuse to listen to the facts. BAKA!!!!!

some one should ... ( 1 day ago by tko360)

some one should tell this idiot reporter that just because something sounds wacko doe sent automatically mean its ruled as bullshit!!! when your brainwashed by the media anything different sounds wacko and therefore they think it implies Wrong!! no it doe sent!! You have to be a real idiot to use mainstream media as your source of knowledge!! i pity such people yet there all over the place!!!

I had noticed that ... ( 1 day ago by NitrogenX2030)

I had noticed that people seemed to show anger towards those who were ignorant or were obviously fabricating their own facts. If someone believes the false information they've presented it doesn't do any good to lash out at them or to even explain anything to them. "You can't fix stupid." If I see someone with false information I'd just ignore it and post what I believe or actually know to be the real facts.

In studying human ... ( 1 day ago by NitrogenX2030)

In studying human behavior I'm trying to gain a better understanding of why people on the internet; for example, sometimes become angry over someone else's ignorance. This isn't the only video I'm doing this in. I'm actually being attacked on another comment board, but I'm saving what I say and what others have said to me so I can try and see why some people suddenly decided to lash out in anger. It's part of my actual study which has nothing to do with the moon. :)

At 4:35 : "No ... ( 1 day ago by therrydicule)

At 4:35 : "No independent press cover"
I got some, from Australia, France, different university in USA and KQED.

Save your pity and ... ( 18 hours ago by myrmecia1977)

Save your pity and get back on your medication

The "source of ... ( 11 hours ago by gamr4life)

The "source of knowledge" in this instance that refutes Sibrel's so-called "hoax proof" isn't the reporter---it's Phil Plait. Even so, "wacko" perfectly describes Sibrel and his hoax videos he's trying to sell.

I also questioned ... ( 10 hours ago by snakehipsohoolihan)

I also questioned this "psychology student" on the telescopes he referred to. He replied with an insult, and a reponse that said a virgin has had different experiences to someone who's had a threesome.
I suspect he really is not a psych student at all.
Oh, and I had to explain that lying about a telescope has nothing to do with ignorance, so if he really had a project that involved being ignorant, why get it SO wrong so early on?
Hmmm.

Nitro"The one thing ... ( 10 hours ago by snakehipsohoolihan)

Nitro"The one thing I find in common mostly dealing with people and the moon landings is the fact that their information is conflicting".
I find this odd,please clarify.
Do you mean that the hoaxers have conflicting stories? I could have told you that!
If you mean the Apollo history is conflicting, it is lucky you are not a history student.
There are enough ill educated fools out there,don't add to the confusion.

For my experiment I ... ( 9 hours ago by NitrogenX2030)

For my experiment I fabricated information. I persistently kept up the story as a hoaxer would have done. The whole reading comprehension thing was me provoking conflict wile evading the question as a hoaxer would do. I wanted to see what kind of reaction I would get. I've gotten good responses and even threats. That's what my study is about. There's no reason for people to become angry or wish to inflict bodily harm on a person just for being wrong; especially over the internet.

Snakehipsohoolihan, ... ( 9 hours ago by NitrogenX2030)

Snakehipsohoolihan, reading from numerous comment boards or sites you find across the internet shows inconsistencies in the story line of hoaxers and Apollo believers alike. I didn't say I was a professional and the word student should shout out inexperience. This is my own independent study just out of curiosity. You're the only one out of thousands who can't seem to let it go. You're trying to make me look bad, but my study isn't about me, my IQ; or ability to hold a story together.

"I wanted to see ... ( 8 hours ago by SpreadingtheMuse)

"I wanted to see what kind of reaction I would get. "
Since you pretended the part of a hoax dufus, was the idea to fool Apollo supporters into immature acts?
A better study would have been to pretend to be a Supporter, then you could analyze getting blasted by the dufuses, which would have been far more colorful.

Entering as someone ... ( 8 hours ago by NitrogenX2030)

Entering as someone who seems to have the answers on either side is asking for trouble. I chose to be against the Apollo missions because I figure more people believe it was real. I did get some interesting results though. No, the most colorful results I've ever received on youtube was when I made a few comments on a Shakira music video towards someone who was obviously mentally unstable; and the more he commented the more obvious it was.

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