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I WISH! No, no, not ... ( 9 months ago by Jocke1776)

I WISH! No, no, not at all. We have a voucher-system since 1991 in education below univeristy-level, primarely high school. But the private schools have to be approved by the state and need to follow the state's regulations. The exact same classes, same text books, grading standards and so on. And the government are now increasing its regulations I read yesterday.

Here in Sweden we ... ( 9 months ago by Jocke1776)

Here in Sweden we it's exactly the reverse. Public schools get more funding, about 10 % I think, it varies a little bit. But the private schools now are getting critizised (!) for offering things for free, like lap tops and free driving lessons to the students in order to compete. In a free market they would simply lower the fee, but they are not allowed to give the students money, so they give them stuff insteead.

We don't even need ... ( 8 months ago by Tuneman100)

We don't even need to have any public schools at all... There's no reason to have them. Have all kids choose between private schools. Right now public school employees and administrators have no incentives to work hard and nearly no accountability. People have to open their eyes.
Good job on the video though, very clear, and very cute!

I don't understand ... ( 7 months ago by Luisagee)

I don't understand why you read instead of just speak, but anyway; The school voucher system attacks public schools directly and indirectly and creates an even larger educational gap between the different economic sectors. Also, who would be granted vouchers and who would not? How can you determine the religious, social, or ideological criteria and how could you legally make that criteria constitutional?

Also, what would we ... ( 7 months ago by Luisagee)

Also, what would we do about the increase in unemployment rate and the overcrowding of public schools due to many of them shutting down due to "incompetence"? Public schools already suffer over-crowding, and the voucher system promises to shut down bad schools. People who don't have a financial choice to sent their kids to private institutions must then enroll their children in another public school, which has actually been the cause of overcrowding

Beautiful, thank ... ( 7 months ago by JTokko)

Beautiful, thank you.

Well said. ( 6 months ago by petrsakharov)

Well said.

You said it ... ( 6 months ago by LadyLoerya)

You said it yourself that public schools would have to compete with private schools in order to remain open. If the state is dumping funding into private schools who already receiving a majority of their funds from parents, how can a public school compete when they receive less overall funding? What if, as in many cases, I can't afford the private school costs above and beyond the voucher? Where does my child receive an education when our local public school closes?

This would also ... ( 6 months ago by LadyLoerya)

This would also lead to further racial and socioeconomic disparities. Private schools do not have to admit a child who applies. How do we provide "equal access" to children when the school has the right to refuse service? If I was low-income hispanic, do you really think my child would be accepted over middle/upper class white children?

I live in SF and ... ( 5 months ago by EarlMcCrackin)

I live in SF and several of our public high schools outperform their private counterparts. It's work ethic and what you raise your children to value. An unmotivated child will not produce, regardless of how many resources are at his disposal.

I think shawnut2 ... ( 5 months ago by commandersprocket)

I think shawnut2 has brought up a very real problem with the voucher system that I have not seen addressed. "To get the education they need" is what you've said, not all parents can/do afford that education.
(From the NEA site) The current average per student cost is $7,552 and the average cost per special education student is an additional $9,369 per student, or $16,921. Do special ed kids get more voucher money? Do we force any voucher accepters to accept all/any kids?

Cute girl. Too bad ... ( 4 months ago by MarkDouglasC)

Cute girl. Too bad school vouchers would be nuts. Here is a clue -- go ahead and do your vouchers. You want Osama middle schools -- paid for by US taxpayers?
What the hell you think happened in Saudi Arabia when they paid for Wahabi schools for Osama? They got ALqueda started.
You want Black Power grade schools? Paid for by your taxes? You want White power middle schools opening down the street?
Your idiot voucher program would be a nightmare, and you would bitch the loudest.

America is already ... ( 4 months ago by MarkDouglasC)

America is already becoming fragmented -- its a very dangerous trends. YOu idiots that want school vouchers have no flipping idea how this lunatic plan would backfire.
Want gay high schools? Want white power middle schools, run by white supremest? Want Islamic grade schools? You would have all kinds of politically intense groups opening up their own schools, paid for by taxpayers, and polarize this country like crazy.
Your voucher plan is real, real real stupid.

Luisage -- right -- ... ( 4 months ago by MarkDouglasC)

Luisage -- right -- vouchers could cause massive problems like you mentioned. Another thing -- whats to prevent Islamic fundamentalist from opening a school and making the government pay for it with vouchers? How about Black pride schools? White supremest? Gay pride high schools? Southern schools for slavery and sessesion?
Vouchers are insane. Don't even go there.

Private school ... ( 3 months ago by mtf10)

Private school education actually isn't better on the whole, it's actually worse if you're comparing the socio-economic background of the students.
Anyway, comparing capitalism to education is ridiculous. Students are human beings, not coal. 99.9% of the time if a child is failing it's because of the family enviroment that the student came from, or the student's own interests or abilities.
Creating a market model for education is a terrible and uninformed idea.

Array ( 2 months ago by proteaglen97)

A couple thoughts:
(1) On letting poorly performing schools shut down if people flee the system. Schools are different than businesses--and should be. Schools don't shut down immediately...while they fail, the students stuck there get poor education and are perhaps irreparably harmed.
(2) The superiority of private schools may be due more to the high socioeconomic status of their students than the fact that they're private. Flood them with underprivileged children and the quality may decline.

Another problem... ... ( 2 months ago by proteaglen97)

Another problem...if they accept voucher money, there would be more limits on private schools' ability to determine their student body and what they teach. They become quasi-private. I think the whole thing would lead to a three-tiered market for education: (1) public schools, (2) quasi-private schools, and (3) really private schools (no voucher students). I don't see that as a good thing.

Instead of freedom, ... ( 2 months ago by almostheroes3)

Instead of freedom, lets keep all of these kids in the public schools and trap the poor families from educational mobility. I am pretty sure that you went to a good school but what about the millions who cant leave their bad schools. Its a good thing we dont run food stamps like education, the gov't would sweep in and nationalize food stores and tell us what we can and cant have. The teachers unions hate this idea because they will lose their grip in D.C., that is all I need to know.

Array ( 1 month ago by melmnre86)

Part. 1
This young woman has a very strong point and I support school vouchers. As a high school student I am furious that a strong nation has stupid selfish and power hungry narcissist teacher unions wanting there way and getting it!
This is very wrong because though it is up to students on how they want to perform the academic environment should be chosen by them and not by there zip.

Array ( 1 month ago by melmnre86)

Pt.2
WE SPEND MORE MONEY ON EDUCATION THAN SOME COUNTRIES PUT TOGETHER YET THEY OUT PERFORM US BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CHOICE!
POWER HUNGRY MONGROLS AKA THE TEACHERS UNION'S GREEDY BASTARDS DONT WANT THE STUDENTS AND FAMILIES TO HAVE A CHOICE!
Students need vouchers so atleast they will spend good money on proper education rather than spending $10,000 plus on bad schools that waste the nations money.
OUR FUTURE IS ON THE LINE TOO ASIDE FROM ECONOMIC POWER SO WILL EDUCATION IF NOTHING IS DONE!!!!

Yes at first it ... ( 1 month ago by melmnre86)

Yes at first it would lead to as you say racial and socioeconomic disparities but mostly the second one depending on where you live but the freedom of where a child wants to study out weighs it all. Because then a child who wants to study here because it concentrates on a thing he or she likes would improve him or her rather than staying in a depressed no good teacher union dominating school whose purpose is for themselves and NOT FOR THE STUDENTS!

For all of you that ... ( 1 month ago by Deathlordtwo)

For all of you that say school vouchers will create extremist schools is wrong. Legislation on what would be the requirements for which school receives vouchers would remedy the problem.

Array ( 3 weeks ago by obietom)

Objection #7:
School vouchers only benefit those students whose parents are able to acquire and use them. Other students, whose parents do not take this initiative, will be left behind in a failing school (Strike 1) that is being depleted of its financial resources (Strike 2) and good students (Strike 3), thanks to vouchers. Thus vouchers present an even worse scenario for the students who are in the most need.
Parents should have more options, but not at the expense of the neediest kids.

Hey, thanks for ... ( 5 days ago by IrishHotSauce)

Hey, thanks for posting this, it was really helpful. I'm actually writing a research paper on supporting school vouchers, and I'm curious what sources you used (I'm having a hard time finding anything pro vouchers).

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