Can Conservatives Be Trusted? Kuttner & Kristol Debate



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Neconservative Bill Kristol debated progressive Robert Kuttner during "The Big Con" Conference sponsored by the Campaign for America's Future and The American Prospect


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It all started in ... ( 8 months ago by devknob)
It all started in 1913, find out what happend in 1913
I wrote that when I ... ( 8 months ago by alteredlame666)
I wrote that when I knew very little about him. Just a few times on Charlie Rose when he sounded like a rational person. Now, I am well aware, and I regret having written that.
I always try to give people the bene, you know? Even when I disagree with their politics. But, yeah, the guy is wacko.
Funny how a ... ( 8 months ago by putittogether)
Funny how a Republic is now a Democracy. The founding fathers hated Democracy, it was nothing more than mob rule!!!! Where the Mob determines your rights, not a Constitution. We are now a collectivist government, not a Republic...So sad we lost the concept of in-alienable rights, and freedom, to this totalitarianism.
I noted how Kuttner ... ( 7 months ago by Silicondoc)
I noted how Kuttner went on a 5 minute hatefilled vague putdown screed worthy of a 2 year old crybaby, and the CON proudly proclaimed and outlined the massive successes of his movement.
I guess Kuttner is a failed liberal hater, and Krystal is a proud success filled Conservative.
Why doesn't Kuttner tell us how ownderful libealism is, instead of lying and whining about someone else?
I note all lefties do is whine about their enemies, and their enemies are everyone but foreign terrorists.
you are now ruled ... ( 7 months ago by heraclytus)
you are now ruled by the zionist(jew)..look at what happened to Nixon when he has noticed and made a slight mention to relocate oversized jew work force in the Department of State which was over represented in the entire US population...ask them that..
"Our race is the ... ( 7 months ago by heraclytus)
"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves."
-- Menachem Begin - Israeli Prime Minister 1977-1983
I think William ... ( 6 months ago by richardrichard07)
I think William Kristol was a liberal who was mugged by reality and thus became a conservative.
Bill Kristol for President!
I think Bill was ... ( 6 months ago by harmlesstree)
I think Bill was mugged by a parallel quantum reality where Islamists hate us because of our freedom, Israel is not built upon another people's land, and Saddam Hussein posed an existential threat to the United States and civilization itself.
Well you clearly ... ( 6 months ago by richardrichard07)
Well you clearly support an anti semitic holocuast in the middle east. The fact of the matter is we are at war with Islamist extremists who do hate America, Israel, Europe, the west and every non islamic country. They are fascists and they have evidently vented a lot of hatred toward freedom
Yes that position ... ( 6 months ago by harmlesstree)
Yes that position naturally flows a priori from the fact that I am critical of the Israeli occupation of the Palestinians. Are you kidding? The fact that one points out that Israel is built upon stolen land does not indicate that said person believes the present inhabitants should be exterminated. After all, America, and most nations, are built upon stolen land. Perhaps I was naïve to expect the benefit of the doubt in this regard from an apparent UBERZIONIST.
I will concede the ... ( 6 months ago by harmlesstree)
I will concede the point that the Islamists are not very fond of Western Liberalism, and that this lack of fondness is one of the reasons for their Jihad against us. Yet it is not the primary reason, or a reason in itself. The primary reason is far more primordial. It is the same reason that motivates you, and the preponderance of those who have advocated for this sort of violence in the past. Yet, I doubt you would ever concede this fact -- a less ideologically myopic person would, however.
kutner Spanks ... ( 6 months ago by bertinotti)
kutner Spanks kristol
Kristol gives him ... ( 5 months ago by longhornJohnny)
Kristol gives him too many passes.
Kuttner sounded ... ( 5 months ago by GOPsithlord)
Kuttner sounded more like a post on the Daily Kos more than an intellectual. But he was right that Kristol didn't so much talk about president Bush because of a lack of confidence the movement now endures. I suspect however that for all their bluster, the liberals would be wise not to so aspiring a hubristic goal as the "collapse of an ideology".
no the question is: ... ( 5 months ago by rivarbob)
no the question is: can the liberals be trusted?!?
elf zubra fee ... ( 5 months ago by jesterevilyn)
elf zubra fee teezak !
Great comment. No ... ( 5 months ago by erkekler)
Great comment. No one is a bigger distortionist and liar than Kristol.
fucking hell that ... ( 4 months ago by MooMoo445)
fucking hell that is funny
Wow... Bill Kristol ... ( 4 months ago by suryavajra)
Wow... Bill Kristol is a lousy debater. He was appeared nervous and uncertain an parroted old talking points. Kuttner has far more command over his arguments.
its really hard to ... ( 3 months ago by amazingjames311)
its really hard to give proof for a failed political ideology
when you are not confined to the safty of your personal cable network news channel.
the neo-cons have ... ( 3 months ago by amazingjames311)
the neo-cons have been selling out our nation
they sit around and defame democrates as unpatriotic
yet they sit back and make the choices in business..
the Neo-Cons are the people determined to force us into a union with mexico and canada.
they are the people who decide that it is better for america if they shut down industial plants and oust hundreds of thousands of american workers out of a job. simply to save .50cent every single unit.
they are the Oil barrons.
trust worthy
these Neo-Cons are ... ( 3 months ago by amazingjames311)
these Neo-Cons are truely destroying the nation.
pro-war
pro-globalization
pro-corporate entities
pro-tax cuts designed to emulate trickle down economics only even more unbalanced towards the favour of the rich.
anti-personal freedoms
anti-workers unions
anti-seperation of church and state
anti-science
anti-public education
anti-conservative public spending
anti-middle and lower class
You're absolutely ... ( 3 months ago by suryavajra)
You're absolutely right amazingjames, and I can't agree with you more! You are definitely preaching to the choir when it comes to me...
the funni thing, ... ( 3 months ago by yongngu88)
the funni thing, Kristol says N.Y is more livable than before, when in fact this is the worst time to live in N.Y. but in the end, i don't want to take sides between Pro or Con. even though i disagree completely with Kristol, I must still commend him for his intelligence, not necessarily his politics. if anyone thinks i'm being pro-conservative, don't worry, i'm voting Democrats, but i don't advocate for them.



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