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Derek Bailey & Min Tanaka



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Performing in Hakushu, Japan. From the 1993 Incus video "Mountain Stage."


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what the f*** is he ... ( 6 months ago by DaBl0nd3)
what the f*** is he doing
This never gets ... ( 4 months ago by Tonymostrom)
This never gets boring, which says all you need to know about it.
This is what I call ... ( 3 months ago by dadiggymax)
This is what I call poetry... It's genius...
This is absolute ... ( 3 months ago by AmazedDotTV)
This is absolute shit I'm afraid. I'd rather hear a fart in the bath.
You;ll learn. ( 3 months ago by Tonymostrom)
You;ll learn.
You'll learn. ( 3 months ago by Tonymostrom)
You'll learn.
Please enlighten me ... ( 3 months ago by FreeImprovMan)
Please enlighten me. I am obviously missing something. Does this sound nice to you? Or do you think it's on some elite, intellectual dimension that only a certain few select geniuses can appreciate?
In a way it's like ... ( 3 months ago by Tonymostrom)
In a way it's like trying to 'tell' someone to like a certain food that you like, like olives.
But some people lean toward certain things; and a few pursue them. That's common, isn't it?
I think I am just ... ( 3 months ago by FreeImprovMan)
I think I am just trying to grasp what it is that you like about this? It can't be the 'tune', there is no harmony, no chords, it's out of tune. I have shown this to several people and they all fall about laughing. It is funny. I really want to know what I'm missing!!! Can you be specific?? It wouldn't be so bad if he was coming at this with some sort of technique, but it's obvious the guy can't play. And that 'dancing'....hilarious!
And your analogy ... ( 3 months ago by FreeImprovMan)
And your analogy with olives isn't right. Millions of people like olives. You would be hard pressed to find 100 people worldwide that think this isn't a joke. So it would be like saying some people eat concrete. That would be a more accurate analogy...
Lemme put it this ... ( 3 months ago by Tonymostrom)
Lemme put it this way. When I was 10, my favorite recording on the Beatles White Album was Revolution 9. When I was 15, I loved both Arnold Schoenberg's & John Cage's "strange-sounds" orchestral music. As do many people. There are people who were Born, I'm convinced, with a taste for dissonance, who are fascinated by certain kinds of unusual Sounds. (A minority, definitely.) And some of the sounds Derek (and only Derek) produced from an ordinary guitar are musical chocolate to me (not olives).
P.S. What Derek's ... ( 3 months ago by Tonymostrom)
P.S. What Derek's playing here would not have sounded that odd to his Japanese audience; maybe just as a more spare & angular version of their own traditional Kota music.
Given that most, if ... ( 3 months ago by FreeImprovMan)
Given that most, if not all, traditional Japanese music is based on the pentatonic scale, I would assert that this would indeed sound odd to the audience. I love dissonance as much as anyone but this is just mindless thrashing about from someone who obviously possesses no musical skills. And is it really improvisation? I've seen a few of Derek's comedy clips and they tend to be pluck, pluck, harmonic, pluck, pluck harmonic etc... What I'm trying to say is, he likes his harmonics apparently.
Many British ... ( 3 months ago by FreeImprovMan)
Many British composers in the early sixties (such as David Bedford) were trying this sort of thing. It was justly marginalized because, whilst a handful of pseudo-intellectuals might enjoy pontificating about 'meaning', the plain truth is noone wants to listen to it. Last concert of avant garde guitar music I went to (featuring some improv sections) had an audience of 10.
Well it's an ... ( 3 months ago by Tonymostrom)
Well it's an interesting question that, about marginalization. Many modernist composers' hard-core experiments tend to trickle down and influence many more musicians, then the public: Stravinsky-Zappa, Beefheart-Talking Heads, Stockhausen-Beatles. Derek himself seems in retrospect to have inspired legions of Japanese noise bands (Boredoms, Ruins, Otomo Yoshihide); many British & European free players were well-received in Japan, in fact. Derek toured there several times, from '78 to '85 or so.
What the hell is a ... ( 3 months ago by fas11030)
What the hell is a Min Tanaka?
Great moments in ... ( 3 months ago by Tonymostrom)
Great moments in wit.
the fact that such ... ( 3 months ago by powelldinho)
the fact that such a clip can spark debate is a testament to its artistic value, imho.
Delicious, idnit ? ( 2 months ago by Tonymostrom)
Delicious, idnit ?
The fact that this ... ( 2 months ago by Benjamin666face)
The fact that this exists is a testament to the bizarre and illogical nature of human life.
WTF ( 1 month ago by whatsername109)
WTF
This is wonderful, ... ( 1 month ago by EmmaYaBasta)
This is wonderful, and yes definitely echoes Kota music (which Derek obviously knew). Makes the LP seem even more precious than before. I saw Tanaka dance to John Tilbury playing John Cage once, and this is as good as that.
The fact that this ... ( 1 month ago by Tonymostrom)
The fact that this exists is a testament to human artistic inventiveness. Art and logic are very distant cousins.
The look on Derek's ... ( 4 days ago by jdeertick)
The look on Derek's face at 2:15 is priceless! As if he is thinking "Dude, what the hell are you doing?" Tanaka must have screwed up something along the way, but I have faith that they will come together as a team and gel.



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