The American Denial of Global Warming



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Polls show that between one-third and one-half of Americans still believe that there is "no solid" evidence of global warming, or that if warming is happening it can be attributed to natural variability. Others believe that scientists are still debating the point. Join scientist and renowned historian Naomi Oreskes as she describes her investigation into the reasons for such widespread mistrust and misunderstanding of scientific consensus and probes the history of organized campaigns designed to create public doubt and confusion about science. Series: "Perspectives on Ocean Science" [12/2007] [Science] [Show ID: 13459]


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Yes we all Know how ... ( 1 day ago by wilbert1755)
Yes we all Know how you pretend to be something you are not.. "the conclusions are supported by the data." A dead give away!@ Explain how the Mann Hockey stick was Supported by the data?
Explain How the IPCC AR4 was Supported by the data? Explain how the Arctic Melting at an Unprecedented rate Supported by the data?
Explain how AGW cause more Hurricanes was Supported by the data? I could go on and on..
"Situational ... ( 1 day ago by wilbert1755)
"Situational science is about respecting both sides of a scientific argument, not just the one supported by FACTS!"That's why I always TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!"
Bovine dropping! How about telling how that wonderful spamming technique is use to silence the other side?
hey, did anyone ... ( 1 day ago by zzchomp)
hey, did anyone know the earth is cooling?
Array ( 21 hours ago by c02lies)
grastog,
You know FULL WELL that there are many papers out there that completely knock the AGW hypothesis on it's ear.
Most show that the EMPIRICAL data DOES NOT fit the AGW hypothesis at all.
Why do you refuse to acknowledge this FACT?
Many prominent scientists refute AGW and show the hypothesis to be fatally flawed.
And also lets just keep in mind that AGW is just an hypothesis that to this day has NO substantial empirical evidence for support.
Wilbert, So I can ... ( 17 hours ago by kfw38C)
Wilbert, So I can suppose you are out there supporting creationism?
Never suppose and ... ( 17 hours ago by wilbert1755)
Never suppose and the answer is no.
Although debates ... ( 15 hours ago by grastog1313)
Although debates never end on YouTube, anthropogenic warming is recognized universally in the science literature, without exception. Those who read the literature regularly (GRL, JGR, PNAS, Nature, Science, etc.) are familiar with the evidence, which still leaves uncertainties about particular details (clouds, hurricanes) but no uncertainty about general AGW principles. Following the lead of science, debate in the outside world is now focused on remediation - how best to curtail CO2 emissions.
"I've been both ... ( 14 hours ago by gufpott)
"I've been both author and reviewer of journal articles"
grastog, it would help other posters to appreciate the depth of your involvement if you could post references to them here on YT.
It would be helpful if you could mention how many times these papers have been cited - as you have suggested this as an indicator of "perceived quality".
Thanks in anticipation.
Guffpot - ... ( 13 hours ago by grastog1313)
Guffpot - Respectfully, I plan to maintain anonymity on YouTube, so I won't describe my record as author or journal editor. Both are substantial, neither is in climate science per se, but my scientific background has permitted me to become knowledgeable in this area, with regular access to the journals. It's my familiarity with the literature that permits me to state that it universally recognizes anthropogenic warming. I simply invite others to read the journals to form their own judgments.
"total refutation ... ( 13 hours ago by gufpott)
"total refutation of AGW"
grastog, you know that total refutation is unlikely. And the same is true for total validation.
Have you read the accounts given in Hollnd's peer reviewed paper, BIAS AND CONCEALMENT?
This would not be necessary if your claims were accurate grastog. Think about it.
Meantime your posts are degenerating into a trance-like chant.
grastog - I respect ... ( 12 hours ago by gufpott)
grastog - I respect and understand your wish to remain anonymous.
It means you need to leave your own background out of the discussion. Try to engage other posters without asking them to accept unsupported claims.
While I'm on, you seem to be the only person who repeatedly claims "universal consensus" in the literature. As you are not a climatologist, you lack the qualifications to make that call. Is that another unsupportable claim?
I agree that our ... ( 11 hours ago by grastog1313)
I agree that our comments must be judged on their own merits. I cited my background only because it was relevant to a false claim about how journals select articles for publication. My background does give me access to the journals, which underlies my assertion that in the literature, anthropogenic warming is universally recognized. If I repeat this in these threads, it's in response to repeated implications that AGW is controversial. Individual details perhaps, but basic principles are settled.
To expand on my ... ( 11 hours ago by grastog1313)
To expand on my comment below, there's little value in arguing about what's in the science literature as opposed to actually reading the literature to find out. Most viewers here don't have paid subscriptions or other convenient access, but may be able to reach the climate science literature via a local University library. Clearly, the most compelling evidence underlying anthropogenic warming is in the journals, and can only be described in summary form here, as I've attempted to do at times.
I understand your ... ( 10 hours ago by gufpott)
I understand your points grastog. However there are misunderstandings about peer reiview on both sides.
Intial stages of peer review ("journal review")is overemphasised in an attempt to filter information.
The tougher test of peer review is what follows. It involves disclosure, replication of results, and (yes) debate.
It is wrong to claim there is no debate. That would be to suggest that scientific enquiry has ceased.
The mere existence of climateaudit is proof enough of that.
I do believe humans ... ( 9 hours ago by gundlgj)
I do believe humans cause some global warming through the urban heat effect, not C02. Well, accually not globally but locally. Urban data shows a steep, alarming warming trend but rural data shows a slow, natural warming trend. To really see what I'm talking about, watch: "Global Warming Urban Heat Effect".
If I was ... ( 8 hours ago by grastog1313)
If I was interpreted as claiming there's no debate on YouTube or blogs, that's not what I intended. Where the debate is settled is the science literature, which universally acknowledges basic anthropogenic warming principles. The literature still debates details, as might be expected from an ongoing field of enquiry, but the conclusion we're warming the planet has moved past debate, in both science and the outside world, to the question of how best to minimize warming by reducing CO2 emissions.
I am expecting to ... ( 8 hours ago by wilbert1755)
I am expecting to read from Grastog "resistance if futile" anytime.
"My background does give me access to the journals" ? Now that's one for the book..hummm Journals! What Journals might those be?
The debate should ... ( 7 hours ago by omgtruth)
The debate should be scientific and not based on politics, shame on you UCTV. There's a great peer-reviewed scientific paper at the "Petition Project" website which continues the scientific debate.
Omgtruth's " ... ( 6 hours ago by grastog1313)
Omgtruth's "Petition Project" site reinforces the point that in the science literature, anthropogenic warming is universally acknowledged. The alleged "peer-reviewed" paper it cites comes not from a climate science or general science journal, but from the "Journal Of American Physicians and Surgeons", an organ of an Oregon political organization. The failure to find even a single denial article in the science literature confirms the unanimous recognition of anthropogenic warming within science.
a Hockey Stick 2 ... ( 6 hours ago by zzchomp)
a Hockey Stick 2 fault found already :
"...the load-bearing proxies are very problematic and, as previously with the Graybill strip bark chronologies (which remain in use), known defects are ignored using contrived excuses."
omgtruth, The ... ( 5 hours ago by kfw38C)
omgtruth, The petition Project is simply rebranding the Oregon Petition. Sarah Valin was more heavily vetted by John McCain than this petition.
consensus is just ... ( 5 hours ago by tylerrrr9483)
consensus is just an accuse not to debate. consensus is also the least scientific form of proving "facts". science in general is about disproving consensus.
Array ( 3 hours ago by c02lies)
grastog1313,
Again YOU KNOW as well as anyone that anthropogenic warming is NOT universally acknowledged BY ANYONE - IN ANY SENSE.
I would ask you to please refrain from this lie and take a little more of a sensible approach.
YOU KNOW THIS IS A LIE - WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO STATE IT????
Again there are many PUBLISHED papers out there categorically proving the hypothesis FALSE without doubt!
YOU ARE A LIAR!
YOU ARE TRYING TO PERVERT THE COURSE OF SCIENCE WITH POLITICAL LIES.
a Hockey Stick 2 ... ( 2 hours ago by zzchomp)
a Hockey Stick 2 faults found already :
"...the load-bearing proxies are very problematic and, as previously with the Graybill strip bark chronologies (which remain in use), known defects are ignored using contrived excuses."
"The vast majority of the proxies in this figure are tree rings, so we're back to tree rings."



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