In Defence of Ayn Rand #3 - Ayn Rand was a Philosopher



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A response to Nyculla's question about what makes a person a philosopher and about whether Ayn Rand was a philosopher.


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"Man has been ... ( 1 year ago by AynRandOeuvre)
"Man has been called a rational being, but rationality is a matter of choice- and the alternative his nature offers him is: rational being or suicidal animal. Man has to be a man- by choice; he has to hold his life as a value- by choice; he has to learn to sustain it- by choice; he has to discover the values it requires and practice his virtues- by choice.
"A code of values accepted by choice is a code of morality...
"Whoever you are, ... ( 1 year ago by AynRandOeuvre)
"Whoever you are, you who are hearing me now, I am speaking to whatever remnant is left uncorrupted within you, to the remnant of the human, to your mind, and I say: There is a morality of reason, a morality proper to man, and Man's Life is its standard of value.
"All that which is proper to the life of a rational being is the good; all that which destroys it is evil." (ThisIsJohnGaltSpeaking\AS\AR)
Rand is a ... ( 1 year ago by henryfogg)
Rand is a philosopher - just not a very good one compared to say, Heidegger or Derrida or Rorty for instance. Just because gravity is 'real' does not help us with the complexities of so called 'values'...Good philsophy cannot give us a 'code of ethics in my opinion
What can give us a ... ( 10 months ago by godlesstechnocrat)
What can give us a code of ethics?
You are hot (not ... ( 7 months ago by Obrian9819)
You are hot (not the old guy).
The facts of ... ( 7 months ago by PaulMcKeever)
The facts of reality, as discovered by your own rational mind.
Rand is Rush ... ( 7 months ago by foxermcbride)
Rand is Rush Limbaugh in a dress. Is Limbaugh a philosopher? Who cares? Rand was a political hack. Was she a philosophical political hack? I don't know. Is Will Ferrel an artist? Is McDonalds "really" a restaurant? This guy thinks that instrumental rationality is something to deify. There seems to be a small cult of folks who, ironically, have banded together to babble a dogma concerning individual rationality. These "objectivists" are dogmatic and doctrinal. A little religion,hehehehehehe
It does not follow ... ( 4 months ago by svanneman)
It does not follow that life is necessarily one's highest value. For example, when an Objectivist soldier enters into a defensive war for the sake of preserving their nation they have chosen to value the life of their nation over their own life. Likewise, when an Objectivist mother jumps in front of a car to save her child she has chosen to value the life of her child over her own life. Therefore, it is not the case that one's own life is necessarily one's highest value.
An Objectivist ... ( 4 months ago by Sarrisan98)
An Objectivist soldier would not enter a conflict purely to maintain a nation. Now, if that nation was a protector of his rights, then that would be perfectly consistent with his views; as by defending his nation, he also defending his right to live his life, something that would be impossible in a nation that did not respect his rights.
As for the mother - ... ( 4 months ago by Sarrisan98)
As for the mother - her child (I assume) is of great value to her life. If her child were to die, then she could not be able to enjoy her life any longer. Therefore, by protecting ehr child, she is protecting her ability to live life and have happiness.
Now if she did not value her child, then indeed, she would not jump into the street to save it. But I know of few mothers who do not value their children. And indeed, if they don't, then why have them in the first place?
#3 - This is ... ( 4 months ago by svanneman)
#3 - This is because the mother own life is her highest value and is therefore more valuable than her child's life. The [ability to enjoy life] and having [life as one's highest value] are not mutually inclusive. You can value one's own life above all else and still be miserable.
#2 - If the ... ( 4 months ago by svanneman)
#2 - If the mother's life was her own absolute highest value, then it follows that she would not knowingly end her life in order to preserve her child's life. If the mother's life was her own absolute highest value, then it follows that even if the mother knew that her own life would become miserable if she let her child die, she would still not risk her own life to save her child's life.
#1 - Let me ... ( 4 months ago by svanneman)
#1 - Let me rephrase. One's own life is not necessarily one's highest value. For example, when an Objectivist mother knowingly jumps in front of a car, which she knows will kill her, in order to save her child's life; then she has valued her child's life over her own.
It's my ... ( 4 months ago by Sarrisan98)
It's my understanding that Rand valued life and happiness equally (At least in a moral sense). So while the mothers own life may be her highest value, her happiness would be entirely crushed by the death of her child. I can remember no passage in Rand's books that say you must live in misery simply because protecting your loved ones was "putting them above your own life."
Perhaps someone a bit more experience could elaborate? I'm afraid I'm not quite an expert in this field.
I was there, it's ... ( 1 week ago by Jakomancer)
I was there, it's true.



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